it is recognized as a terrorist group not only by the united states but eu and countries around the world. it committed atrocities in around the world. most recently in bulgaria tourists were attacked. what happened in the arab spring, hamas shifted into iran's orbit to take on new patrons. those new patrons are turkey, egypt and qatar. those countries like iran are u.s. allies. jenna: why are they helping hamas? why are they patrons of a terrorist organization? >> they see the opportunity to weaken iran. how can we weaken iran? one way in syria they're taking another one of iran's allies which is the regime of bashar assad and second taking iran out of the orbit or taking hamas out of iran's orbit. jenna: so we see turkey, qatar, egypt, supporting hamas, a terrorist organization. in some ways we see that as potentially positive because iran is not so much a factor but what's in it for turkey and egypt and qatar to listen to us and not support this terrorist group when they obviously, there's parts at that of that terrorist group they like the mischief it is creating? >> i think it is two